Hey guys, recently came into some information about the new beasts that may or may not be true, local manager heard it from the GW hobby manager.

Release is set for sometime in winter 2009.

Book will retain Herds, Bestigor, Hounds, Chariots, Trolls, Ogres, Centigors, Minotaurs, Dragon Ogres, Shaggoths, aswell as gaining the use of Harpies and a Chaos Gorgon.

Gors and Ungors are no longer going to mix in one unit

Originally Posted by macejase
thats about all i got, and it should be happening December 09
October.

All going from a very high ranking source.

Hounds will be in the book

So, no Shaggoths and Dragon Ogres will appear in the beasts book but other new gribbly beasts instead.

From what I've heard, it'll be something like this...

Bestigors: WS(5), S(4), T(4), A(2), LD(8)...and finally able to take Shields again, and Halberds instead of Great Weapons! No more 0-1 unit with a Mark either! But, I also heard that they'll be keeping the 1 per 1 Gor unit.

Ungors: Skirmished Schouts without Spears, just Hand Weapon & Shields as I suggested some time ago...

Chaos Gorgon: Used to be a Magical Attack of Petrifying a single model, if it failed it's Ward Save (No Armor, No Regen) it died instantly, regardless of wounds left! The model idea came from myself and my buddy Fernando Lopez who does some freelance artwork here and there for GW via Dave Taylor and Phil Kelly. We had a composite sketch for an "updated" Chaos Gorgon, making it more "GW" like then previous incarnations (more medusa like). Dave happened to see it the pic in Fernando's Art Portfolio, and liked it, asking what it was...a Chaos Gorgon! We had some rules for it, moving it's attack to the Shooting phase and keeping the range just 12", D6 wounds vs target unit no Armor Saves. We'll see what they come up with...


Harpies are definitely back, and yeah, they're Specials!

Looks like BoC will be getting a new monster in the BoC army book. He told me every new play testing list, has this new monster in it. He told me that GW is pushing it down the play tester's throats. That there is even a model for it, so he says it's going to happen 100%.

It's: M8 WS5 S5 T5 W5 I3 5A on a chariot base.

armour piercing, S4 or S5 breath weapon [depends on what play testing list] it's either stubborn or unbreakable [depends on what play testing list]

It can also be given diffrent marks:

Slaanesh: always strike first
Nurgle: extra wound or posion attacks [depends on what list]
Khorne: S6 and frenzy
Tzeentch: 5+ ward save

Details are unclear as to exactly when this will be out, but all signs point to some time in 2009. As with the two previous Chaos books it will be stand-alone in that you can't use things from the Warriors of Chaos and Daemons of Chaos books, but there will be a degree of overlap in that the same units (though not necessary with the exact same rules) will appear in multiple books. This is similar to how Warhounds were in both the old Hordes of Chaos books and the current Beasts of Chaos books, but has the Ambush rule in the beast books.
It is not know which units will be shared with the other books, but obvious contenders are the things that appear in the current Beasts book (Warhounds, Ogres, Trolls, Dragon Ogres, Shaggoth, Spawn, Giant).


New models
The following models are being withdrawn at the moment, which suggests that they might get resculpted or repackaged:
- Bestigor (and variants)
- Minotaurs
- Centigor
- Chaos Ogres
- Dragon Ogres
- Chaos Trolls



The list as it is looking at the moment:

Lords

Beastlord

Great Bray-Shaman

Doombull

Daemon Prince(?)


Heroes

Wargor

Bray-Shaman


Core

Beast Herds

Bestigor
- supposedly coming in plastic

Warhounds


Special

Centigor

Tuskgor Chariots
- almost certainly 1 per Special

Minotaurs
- supposedly coming in plastic

Ogres(?)

Chaos Trolls(?)

Dragon Ogres(?)
- supposedly getting new models

Harpies
- presumably as in the Dark Elf book


Rare

Giant

Shaggoth(?)

Spawn
- presumably as in the Warriors of Chaos book

Gorgon
- back in 5th edition this was a human-sized monster with a nasty ranged attack, similar to a Banshee
- other view has it as a quadrupedal, bull-like creature that breathes fire

Looks like there just tweeking pretty much the same list over and over again now. This one looks like it's going to be wrap. With just a minor twist here or there, but there a 90% chance this is what your going to see come late November/ December.

Lords:
Beastlord
Great Bray Shaman
Doombull [magicial weapons and mutations only]
note- Lords can buy Chaos Armour for 10 pts

Hero's:
Wargor
Bray Shaman
Centigor

Core:
Beast Herd [rank up 5 wide]
Bestigors
Centigors [fast cav]
Warhounds

Special:
Tuskgor Chariots [2-1 choice]
Minotaurs [become core choice with Doombull]
Chaos Ogres
Dragon Ogres

Rare:
Chaos Giant
Shaggoth
Spawns
Gorgon - [stat line: M8 WS5 S5 T5 W5 I3 5A]

New rule change: If your General decides not to ambush, your general can have the chance for Beast Herd units to scout. [roll a D6]
1-2: Beast Herds are drunk and do not Scout
3-4: 1 unit of Beast Herds can Scout
5-6: 2 units of Beast Herds can scout

New models: Bestigors, Mino's, Dragon Ogre, Shamans, Beastlord/Wargor & Gorgon.

Lords can take 100 pts of magic items & 100 points of Chaos Mutations/Gifts. Hero's can take up to 50 points of magical items and 50 points of Chaos Mutations/Gifts.

Some interesting new items or Chaos Mutations/Gifts: [Mutations/Gifts can only be taken once]

* banner that turns Bestigors into Raider's like Beast Herds *
* breath gift * [breaths fire 25 pts]
* extra Two Arm Mutation * [adds +2 attacks to profile 50 pts]
* extra Horn * [adds a extra attack on the charge 20 pts]
* Hoof of Speed [double M5 model 30 pts]
* Stone Skin * [+2 to your armour save 25 pts]
* Staff of Darkoth is a bound item *
* Troll Hide * [50 pts for Regeneration]
* Unholy Beast Strength [+1S for 25 pts]
* Bloodstone Braystaff* [Arcane item that gives a +1LD to Shamans and +2 MR for 50 pts]

Spell Lores: Beasts of Nurgle, Slaanesh and Tzeentch are getting there own new lores. Very close to the WoC new lores with minor change to the lists. For Tzeentch player's I was told boon of Tzeentch is in there.

Inside thoughts from play tester's are: That a Doombull with Chaos Mutations can rival a Vampire Lord as a combat character now. Plus Chaos Armour & Stone Skin give him nice protection at 2+ armour save. He expects Doombull to be the most popular Lord choice!

Also by turning the Centigors into Fast Cav there no need to add flyers into a Beast of Chaos army. Between this move and the new Gorgon & Chaos Mutations, BoC should be able to compete very well in 7th edition.

I was told that they feel this list will pretty much go to print. That Games-Workshop and play testers are all happy with the end results so far. Will post more information as I get it. As I asked for the new lores so I can play test with my friends myself.

GoC

I have heard that along with Ghazrak, Gorthor and Morghur returning there will be three other characters;

A Minotaur character who pulls along a braystone and can cast spells

A drunken centigor character with a magical double handed weapon

Some monster called ' the thing in the woods'

please someone of authority confirm or rebuff as i am desperate to know if its true

I heard some more info from my source today, as to tell the truth the more I hear the harder I find it to believe. Anyways;

Apparently all units with the Ambush special rule will be able to do so, no more half deployed and half in ambush

There will be different 'breeds' of hound available as upgrades, however upgrading them means they lose ambush. No further info on this was forwarded to me.

There will be a range of mutations available as upgrades for characters in similar vein to chaotic/demonic/vampyric upgrades

Harpies are almost 100% gonna be in the new list

I would be in-debted to the Pie Man to either confirm or deny this info, or at the very least confirm or deny that he may at some time confirm or deny this info

The claim that Harpies will be in the book seems to be unanimous, but I've heard they're called Gargoyles - whatever. A man-sized flying unit seems to be on the cards.

I've heard that Daemon Princes will return as a Lord option, cheaper and with magical attacks, with access to 150pts (?!) of Beast Mutations - given that most of these are rather more formidable/fundamental than the Mortal Gifts, this should make them a more attractive choice than in the Warriors of Chaos book.

There's going to be a new marked (pretty sure it's Nurgle, but it could be Slaanesh) Daemon Prince Special Character, too.

I've also heard about a Tzeentchian Brayshaman with a raven's head, which sounds rather cool.

All the current Special Characters will be returning.

EDIT: I've also heard something about Daemonkin, which sounded rather garbled. I guess it's a new unit, or a (special) character, or something? The beastman equivalent of possessed/forsaken?

After more consistent badgering and hen-pecking of my good overseas friend I have squeezed my final bit of info, as it was made explicitly clear that i was to no longer attempt to solicit any more info nor even mention BoC until the release date. SO here is my last info update;

Hound breeds "MAY" or "MAY NOT" be divided into four categories: Attack hounds which get extra attacks, Gaurd hounds which may have a flanking rule similar to empire detachments, Pursuit hounds which roll an extra d6 in pursuit disgarding the lowest roll and Hunting packs which may have the scout rule.

There MAY be a large monster on the unit strength 3 bases which accompanies lord level characters as an upgrade similar to monstrous mounts but NOT a mount in of itself. I thought this may be the thing in the woods mentioned earlier.

All of the large case MAY's were included in the email i recieved and quite frankly i don't know what to make of them. Perhaps these 'rumours' haven't been playtested yet or something? ANyways i don't know what to think of anything ive heard so far and would encourage others to skeptical and hopeful in equal measures as i am

it would of been a post with pics and details and dates with other mounted stuff too, but.... its how i was allowed to do it. patience is a virtue.

perhaps ill get cleared this weekend.

want to know whats in my hand right now?

plastic dragon ogre, all for me. two hand weapons, choppa rule. or 2 handed, killing blow. although not skaven. so off topic... is this getting deleted?

in my new policy of not being cryptic

Revered Beast Spawn

seen as the most gifted beast. guided by the leaders. impact hits. d3 wounds. 5's


yes i know not exactly straight forward, deal with it

lord of the rings, you must buy.

I heard yesterday at my Games Night that BoC may be getting an 'evil' treeman type monster/shrine called 'The Gibbet Tree' which is like a really old ancient tree possessed by daemons and empowered by bloody sacrefices made on its branches by the Beastmen.

It was explained to me that by executing prisoners on the gibbet tree the monster possessing the gibbet tree consumes the souls, flesh and blood of the victims empowering itself and giving it the ability to move and fight with the BoC.

The guy i heard this from is the type who always seems to acquire the army books via illegal and illicit means in PDF form months before its release, spoiling all the suprises for everyone, and he has previously been right about SM and ORKS and DAEMONS, although he is not at all a fantasy fan. I think anything this 'different' would surely have been mentioned by the pie-man or hastings so i tend to call BS. Still thought i would share and add to the speculation anyways.

The pieces in the grand puzzle begin to coalesce...

From the latest White Dwarf:
"If you go down to the woods today, you're sure of a big surprise...Especially if it's one of the dark forests that cover the Old World"

That would seem to corroborate with what we've been hearing of Beasts of Chaos being the first Fantasy book out of the gate with the new year (with some nice new plastic sets of beasties).

That would put the overall Games Workshop schedule looking roughly like this:

November: Skaven
February: Tyranids
March: Beasts of Chaos
After March ???: Blood Angels/Necrons (conflicting chatter)

General info

Release is February 2010, after Tyranids, with advance orders starting January 4th.

Was to be written by Andy Hoare, but he has since quit Games Workshop.

Rules

Army-wide Special Rules and Magic Items

Ambush is supposedly staying much the same, though it has been suggested that it will no longer be dependant on the General.

No news on Unruly.

Alongside Magic Items, "Mutations" will be available in the same way as WoC Gifts or Vampire Powers, operating on the same budgetary lines. Bonuses, like Scaly Skin, extra Strength and Movement are expected, as well as more esoteric abilities like Breath Weapons. Multiples of the same Mutation are expected to be allowed.

Marks are no longer limited throughout the army. No news on their exact rules, though they are assumed to be similar to, if not the same as, the WoC marks.

*Note, army-list slots are representative only until more solid rumours appear*

Lords & Heroes

Beastlord/Wargor – Ld 9, T5, with appropriate price hikes. May take Chaos Armour. May be accompanied by a 'pet' US3 Beast Spawn.

Great Bray-Shaman/Bray-Shaman – May be able to take a Herdstone, in the same manner as an Anvil/Casket. Beast Spawn as above.

Doombull– A metal box set release is confirmed; it is assumed that the Doombull will still allow Minotaurs as Core.

Centigor Hero - Aside from the Centigor Special Character, it has been rumoured that there will be a Centigor character available as a standard Hero choice. However, this may be a mutation rather than a seperate choice.

Daemon Prince? - Believed to still be in the list, though different to the WoC incarnation.

Core

Beast Herds - No new models are expected, though Gors and Ungors are to be split into two seperate Plastic Boxes. Ranking issues to be fixed. Supposedly the champion will no longer provide +1Ld. Some sort of Scout option is believed to be available.

Bestigor Herds – New Plastic Models.

Warhounds - Varieties of Warhounds allowed through upgrades - Hunting, Guarding, etc.

Centigor? – Rumoured to be moved to Core. Fast Cavalry. Supposedly armour options will be available.

Special

Tuskgor Chariots – Unclear as of yet if it is 2-4-1 or one per slot.

Minotaurs – New plastic models. Believed to still be Core with Doombull.

Dragon Ogres? - Possibly dropped. On the one hand, they are thought not to 'fit' with the new Beasts 'feel'. On the other, plastic Dragon Ogres are also rumoured.

Chaos Trolls? - Very possibly dropped.

Harpies/Gargoyles/Gorgoyles - Flying infantry, replacing Furies.

Rare

Chaos Giant – As in WoC book.

Spawn – Assumed to be in WoC book. Possibility of slight changes.

Gorgon – A new monster. Supposedly on a chariot-base, with Movement 8 and stats in the 5s, with Impact Hits and a Breathweapon. Model is probable, but unconfirmed.

Dragon Ogre Shaggoth? - Possibly dropped. Even less likely to appear than the Dragon Ogres.

Herdstone/Dark Heart? – In the same vein as a Corpse Cart, Warshrine, and Screaming Bell, a Herdstone with the ability to buff nearby units might be expected. However, it may be an upgrade/"mount" for the Bray-Shaman. A "giant evil tree/corrupt treeman" has been suggested, "dark heart of the forest" style.


Special Characters

All the Special Characters from the last book are believed to in this one. New ones talked about include:
- A Daemon Prince. May have Bloodthirster-level stats. Possibly Nurgle/Slaanesh marked.
- A Minotaur character dragging a Herdstone (as seen in the Rare and Bray-Shaman entries). May be a Champion upgrade.
- A Foe-Render character with the +1Ld of the old book, among other things.
- The Thing From The Woods, a giant Warhound/Spawn from Mordheim.
- A Centigor character with special Drunken rules and a magical Great Weapon.
- A Tzeentchian Bray-Shaman with a raven's head.

Models and Army Book

No pics yet. Work by Aly Morrison and Mark Harrison. Releases rumoured are:
- Beastlord and Bray-Shaman
* Plastic Bestigor Box. Ten models, £25. CONFIRMED
* Plastic Minotaur Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. Unknown number of models (4 seems likely), £27. CONFIRMED
* Metal Doombull Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. One model, £25. CONFIRMED
* Metal "Grulgor" Box, at £15. Unknown number of models or content.
* Ungors and Gors are being split up into seperate plastic boxes. Whether or not this heralds a shift in the army list is unknown.
* The Tuskgor Chariot is receiving a new product code as a metal box at £18. This doesn't mean it's receiving a new model.
* The same applies to Centigors, who are now a metal box at £35.
- Gorgon Model, likely plastic considering recent "monstrous" releases.
- Presumably new Special Characters in metal.
- Plastic Dragon Ogres are heavily rumoured for release, though as part of a second wave for Warriors of Chaos.


Other Thoughts
It seems strange that, after all the new units of recent books (Warshrine & Forsaken / Razordon & Engine / Corpse Cart & Blood Knights & Varghulf / Doomwheel & Verminlord & Abomination & Plague Furnace & Mortar & so on) Beasts of Chaos, an army list that's lost quite a bit in the Chaos Split, would only gain the new Gorgon and maybe Harpies/Gargoyles. I, for one, expect a few more shiny new units to be popping their heads from between the dark trees of the rumour-forest as the release date draws closer.
* Such as the "Grulgor" (german name), being released in a metal box set. It's unknown if this name (translating as "Horror Gor") refers to a new unit of Forsaken-style Spawngor, to an existing rumoured unit, or to something else entirely.

Infos générales

Sortie en février 2010, après les tyrannides, avec précommandes à partir du 4 janvier

Devait être écrit par Andy Hoare, mais il a quitté GW depuis.

Règles

Règles spéciales communes à l'armée et objets magiques

L'embuscade reste plus ou moins identique, bien qu'il ai été suggéré qu'elle ne dépende plus du général.

Pas de nouvelle sur la règle d'indiscipline.

En parallèle des objets magiques, des mutations serait disponibles de manière similaire aux dons du chaos et aux pouvoirs vampires, sur un même pool de points [comprendre : XX pts max d'objets magiques et/ou mutations par héros, et non pas XX pts d'OM et YY pts de mutation]. Des bonus, comme peau écailleuse, augmentation de la force ou du mouvement sont attendus, ainsi que des capacités plus ésotériques [je pense qu'il voulait dire "originales", ésotériques n'a rien à voir dans ce contexte ] telles que des attaques de souffle. Il est attendu qu'elles ne soient pas limitées à une de chaque type [à préciser : plusieurs fois la même mutation dans l'armée, ou par perso ?].

Plus de limite de marques du chaos dans l'armée. Pas d'info sur leurs règles exactes, mais on peut estimer qu'elles seront similaires si ce n'est identiques à celles des GdC.

* Note : les slots d'armée sont à prendre avec des pincettes en l'attente de rumeurs plus fiables *

Seigneurs et héros

Seigneur des bêtes/wargor - Cd 9, E5, avec l'ajustement de coût (à la hausse) qui va bien. Peut s'équiper d'une armure du chaos. Peut être accompagné d'un "familier" enfant du chaos, PU3.

Grand shaman/shaman - Peut prendre une pierre des hardes, de la même manière que l'enclume ou l'arche des âmes. Enfant du chaos dispo comme pour le Seigneur des bêtes.

Doombull - Sortie d'un kit métal confirmé. Il est attendu qu'il permette toujours de prendre des minotaures en troupe de base.

Héros centigor - indépendamment du personnage spécial centigor, il aurait été dit qu'une version classique de héros centigor ferait son apparition. Cependant, il pourrait s'agir d'une mutation de héros existant plus que d'un nouveau choix de héros.

Prince démon ? - Semblerait toujours dans la liste, bien que différent de celui du bouquin GdC.

Base

Hardes - Pas de nouvelles figurines attendues, mais les gors et les ungors serait séparés en deux boîtes plastiques distinctes. Problèmes de rang corrigés. Le champion pourrait bien perdre son +1 Cd [ ]. Une option "éclaireurs" ou quelque chose d'approchant serait dispo.

Bestigors - Nouveaux modèles plastiques.

Chiens du chaos - Plusieurs variantes dispos par upgrades - Chasseurs, gardiens, etc...

Centigors ? - Les rumeurs les décrivent en unités de base. Cavalerie légère. Des options d'armure serait dispo.


Speciale

Chars à sanglebouc - Reste dans le flou si ils seraient 2 chars par slot ou bien 1 seul

Minotaurs - Nouvelles figurines plastique. Seraient toujours unité de base si le général est un doombull.

Dragon Ogres ? - Potentiellement abandonnés. D'un coté, ils peuvent êtres vu comme en décalage avec le nouveau feeling de l'armée [trop "civilisés]. De l'autre, des nouvelles figurines plastiques seraient attendu.

Trolls du chaos ? - Bonne possibilité qu'ils soient abandonnés.

Harpies/Gargouilles/Gorgouilles - Infanterie volante, remplace les Furies.

Rare

Géant du chaos - Version du bouquin GdC

Enfant du chaos - Étaient attendus dans le bouquins GdC [pas saisi, j'ai du rater un épisode]. Possibilité de légers changements

Gorgone - Un nouveau monstre. Serait sur un socle de char, M8, caracs dans les 5, touches d'impact, attaque de souffle. Figurine dédiée probable, mais non confirmée.

Dragon ogre Shaggoth ? -Probablement abandonné. Plus probablement que les dragon ogres.

Pierre des hardes/Coeur sombre ? - Dans la droite lignée du chariot macabre, de l'autel de guerre et de la cloche hurlante, une pierre des hardes pouvant booster les alliés proche est attendue. Cependant, ce pourrait être une upgrade/"monture" pour shaman. Un "arbre géant maléfique/homme-arbre corrompu" a été évoqué, dans le style "sombre coeur de la forêt".


Personnages spéciaux

Tous ceux du bouquin précédent seraient de retour. Les nouveaux évoqués inclueraient :
- Un prince démon. Pourrait avoir des caracs du niveau d'un buveur de sang. Potentiellement portant la marque de Slaanesh ou Nurgle [voir les deux, la formulation est ambigüe]
- Un personnage minotaure, tractant une pierre des hardes (similaire à celle des shaman/de choix rare). Éventuellement une upgrade pour champion minotaure.
- Un gran-gor avec le +1 Cd du bouquin actuel, entre autres choses.
- La Chose du Fond des Bois, un enfant/chien du chaos géant de Mordheim.
- Un centigor avec des règles d'ivresse modifiées et une arme lourde magique.
- Un shaman de Tzeentch avec une tête de corbeau.

Figurines et livre d'armée

Pas encore d'images. Travail [sculpture et/ou illustration du LA ?] par Aly Morrison et Mark Harrison. Rumeurs actuelles :
- Seigneur des bêtes et shaman
* Boîte de bestigors plastiques. 10 figurines, 25£ [environ 28€]. CONFIRMÉ
* Boîte de minotaures plastiques, sculptés par Mark Harrison. Nombre de figurines par boîte inconnu (probablement 4), 25£ [environ 28€]. CONFIRMÉ
* Boîte de doombull métallique, sculptés par Mark Harrison. Une figurine, 25£ [environ 28€]. CONFIRMÉ
* Boîte de "grulgor" [voir plus bas] en métal, à 15£ [env. 17€]. Contenu et nombre de figurines inconnu.
* Ungors et gors séparés en deux boîtes. Que cela augure d'un changement dans la liste d'armée ou pas est encore inconnu.
* Le char à sangleboucs reçoit un nouveau code produit en tant que boîte métal à 18£ [env. 20€]. Cela ne signifie pas spécialement qu'il y aura une nouvelle figurine.
* Même chose pour les centigors, qui sont maintenant en boîte métal à 35£ [env. 39€].
- Figurine de gorgone, probablement plastique si on considère les dernières sorties de "monstres"
- Vraisemblablement les nouveaux perso spé en métal
- Rumeurs très appuyées de dragon ogres plastiques, cependant dans le cadre de la seconde vague de figurines GdC


Quelques pensées
Il semble étrange qu'après toutes les nouvelles unités des LA récents (autel de guerre & déchus / razordon & machine des dieux / chariot macabre & chevaliers de sang & varghulf / roue infernale & verminarque & abomination & creuset de la peste & mortier / etc...), les bêtes du chaos, qui ont déjà perdu pas mal de troupes avec la séparation du chaos, ne gagneraient que la gorgone, et peut-être les harpies/gargouilles. Personnellement [l'auteur du post anglais] je m'attend à ce que quelques nouvelles unités sympas pointes le bout de leur nez à l'orée de la forêt des rumeurs quand s'approchera la date de parution.
* Par exemple, les "grulgor" (nom allemand), attendu en boîte métal. Il est indéterminé si ce nom (se traduisant par "gor horrifique") fait référence à une nouvelle unité de gors mutants [spawngor, jamais entendu parler] du style des déchus, à une unité déjà évoquée par des rumeurs, ou à totalement autre chose.

Right, well it seems GW have changed the product code prefix for the whole Beastmen range (I had been wondering for a while now what these new prefix items were) which makes things slightly messier. There's no problem with the plastic kits:

Gors (Plastic Box) - £15.00 / US?? / 19,50 € / Oz$41.00
Ungors (Plastic Box) - £15.00 / US?? / 19,50 € / Oz$41.00
Bestigors (Plastic Box) - £25.00 / US?? / 32,50 € / Oz$69.00
Minotaurs (Plastic Box) - £27.00 / US?? / 35,00 € / Oz$74.00

Grulgor (Metal Box) - £15.00 / US$25.00 / 22,50 € / Oz$44.00
Doombull (Metal Box) - £25.00 / US$41.25 / 32,50 € / Oz$69.00
Chariot* (Metal Box) - £18.00 / US$30.00 / 25,00 € / Oz$50.00
Gorthor^* (Metal Box) - £25.00 / US$??.?? / 35,00 € / Oz$69.00
Centigors* (Metal Box) - £35.00 / US$57.75 / 50,00 € / Oz$96.00

* These may not be all-new models, but rather existing kits with a new product code, to be confirmed. Note that the prices are exactly the same as the current kits.
^ I was only able to get four of the five box sets named, so this is an assumption on my part given that it was listed alongside the Chariot in a separate and older pricelist than the other box sets and carries the same prices as the current kit.

New Beastlord and Bray-Shaman models.
* Special Characters Malagor and Ghorros have generic models at unknown prices.
* Metal Doombull Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. One model, £25.
* Metal Razorgor Box. One new model, £15.
* Plastic Bestigor Box. Ten models, £25.
* Plastic Minotaur Box, sculpted by Mark Harrison. 3 models, with options for greatweapons, two handweapons, and shields. £27.
* Ungors and Gors are being resculpted and split up into seperate plastic boxes, at £15 for 10 models each. They will be extremely similar to the current models (as can be seen below) but more detailed, and with a greater variety of poses. Ungors will come with shortbows, and are on 20x20mm bases.
* The Tuskgor Chariot is receiving a new product code as a metal box at £18. This doesn't mean it's receiving a new model.
* The same applies to Centigors, who are now a metal box at £35.
* The Battalion will consist of 20 Gor, 10 Ungor, and 10 Bestigor, and costs £55.

Oh, my, lord.

I got a hold of the Minotaur plastics this morning and the only way I can desribe them is that a blind man had this described to him...

http://500apples.files.wordpress.com...odybuilder.jpg

Told to add a bull head (with similar muscular proportions) and then he sculpted it with another layer of muscles on top.

The legs especially are vomit worthy. Some hoof/claw, some feet, all very confusing. With all the layers of muscle on the legs they look akin to this:

http://www.bio.davidson.edu/Courses/...p_image004.jpg

In saying that the upper body (and weapons, and a couple of heads) is at least able to be looked at, the rest of the model should have been thrown in the bin and restarted. IMHO worse than the current rat ogres.

Also I got pics of the new bestigors.
All appear to have EXACTLY the same horn set sprouting out of their helmets, I didn't get a good look to see if the faces were different. All in same, or very similar pose.

Ungor can have: Spears and shield, HW & shield.... bows! (may have been short bows). They are also able to skirmish. 20mm bases For The Loss!!!

Gors are ranked!!! So no more problems with ranking up 4 wide. LOL

The old shaman with the staff is still there.

2 new beastmen characters were in the pics, 25mm bases, no other details.

I'm surprised there is no information. I know my local GW had the poster last week (Saw a staff member shooing away others and showing one of the other staff), and have had it hanging up yesterday.

I got a quick look at it, but since i'm not hugely into Beastmen I went back to my painting.

For the record, the above pictures at DakkaDakka (I skimmed and clicked a picture) did seem to be my impression of the Minoataurs. Their legs seemed stumpy and muscly, but I didn't really see much of them. They just felt very odd.

Bestigors for the record though, seemed fine to me. Poster had them wielding a bunch of Great Weapons I believe. Had armour plates on their arms. Did seem to all be similarly posed though, but that does seem to be the trend with Warhammer regiments.

From what I could tell of Gors and Ungors, maybe a few new heads?

I'm not hugely familiar with the warhammer range. While I have put together some Beastmen for Bloodbowl and Mordheim out of the plastics, I never payed a huge amount of attention to the heads and stuff.

As for tight lipped and no information. Well Lizardmen in February last year didn't even get a mention in the round up of 2009 (They skipped February, and put in 2 March's. Didn't know March happened twice). So maybe Beastmen are getting similar treatment. Of course, Lizards did have a LOT better coverage in terms of models and rumours, so yeah, feel for you guys. A little sad if Beastmen are going to be the way things are in the future with rumours.

Ok, just had a quick 5 minute convo with my mate who's had a 5 minute read thorough the new book.

Herds have split sad.gif, both ranked up but ungor get the option to skirmish
Unruly has gone
New rule for "herds"- when in combat take a leadership check.
If passed the unit gets hatred, if you roll insane courage you get hatred and frenzy. Didn't seem to be a downside if you failed.

Bestigor capture standards if they simply win a round of combat, get to add it (and any others they capture) to their combat res.

Minotaurs get frenzy if they win a round of combat, for every round they win they get a cumulative extra attack! Minos can only ever pursue or overrun 1d6 (they can now overrun)

Chariots STILL CORE

Centigor, still special not fast cav. No drunken every turn, instead roll a dice at the beginning of the game. Effects range from +2 I, to -1 movement to something else he couldn't remember.

New unit Harpies

New unit. Some kind of jabberwoky thing. Enemy units in 12" take Ld check, for every number they fail by take a wound no armour. seemed to be 5's across the board. If it takes a wound in combat enemy takes a S5 hit. 275 points.

Think he said about a gorgon thing, mainly 6's.

There was a normal giant, then there was a cyclops giant which was basically a giant with only Ld8, but armed with a stone thrower and every (enemy?) wizard within 24" has to pass a leadership check or not be able to cast spells.

That's all I've got for now.

Hopefully I'll be getting to look myself in the next couple of days so more info to come.

Got to read it myself as well.

Gorgon ( i think it was) looks like a giant minotaur, and eats people

Cygor is a cyclops giant-gor that gets rerolls to hit against undead, daemons (I think) and things with ward saves. Tragically WS2. Stone Thrower.

Jabbersclyth is the jabberwocky thing. Flying, poison, terror, largetarget, 12" tounge attack, strength 5


Doombulls have D3 impact hits, normal minos have 1 each. Each round of combat won gives minos an extra frenzy attack for that combat (lost if combat ends or you lose a round).

Beastlord allows a reroll on the beastial roll when fighting against humans (Empire and Bretonians) which basically means it's likely the unit will get what is effectively eternal hatred. Something to do with insane courage adding in Frenzy to the unit he's with with that in-combat-roll thing

Great Bray Shaman are T5.

The Wild Lore has a spell that summons either a Jabber, Giant, Cygor or Gorgon from a board edge of your choice. Not RIP, but may aswell be from the desription. If the monster takes a wound then the caster takes a T test to see if they take a wound. If the caster dies then the monster disappears.

First spell of the lore was something like all friendlys within 6" get to move D6 towards nearest enemy in sight or forward. Not too sure on that one.

There's another that makes the mounts of a unit attack the riders.

2 chariot types, ungor and gor. Ungor one is core, not sure about the gor one, but is pulled by razorgors from what I was told (didn't see that page)

No gargoyles, but we do get harpies.

Ambush yes. Need to confirm who has it and how it works. Pretty sure it was just gors and ungors for it.

I think the bestial roll is for gors and bestigors.

Sadly I didn't get a thorough look at all the stuff, moslty brief glimpses.

The rare choices all looked to be 200+ points each, giant 205(?) the others 275ish and the spawn at 55 or so.


As for the Bestigor stealing banners, pretty sure it just adds an extra combat res to the unit and doesn't confer special rules. Would need to check though.

ok got about a minute with him as he was at work. He's not a beastmen player himself so will not immediately look for the things we'd look for or notice what's missing etc. He's going to ring me back tonight. However.

No marks that he could see.

Beastlord is Ld 9

Doombull only Ld 8, but can confirm he gets the d3 impact hits. I asked if he made minos core - he wasn't sure and then he had to go.

Another thing I remember from the last convo was that the chariots tuskgor (or whatever they're called now) were S4 basic but didn't get charging bonuses.

There was an option to upgrade the tuskgor to razorgor which i think he said got up to S6 on the charge (not sure if that's stays core (doubtful) or if its S4 +2 or S5 +1).

Can also confirm that first spell, every unit within 6" moves d6".

There were obv special characters, but I'm afraid I'm so disinterested in them I didn't ask any questions and if he started talking about one I pretty quickly moved the topic on as time was short.

Posted by Nethrag over on Herdstone

Quote Marks are gone.

Gifts are 1 per army.

QUOTE
What units get the beastial roll?


pretty sure it was only gor and bestigor type stuff (i.e. not the minos or razorgors)

Doombull doesn't seem to make minos core (there maybe a special character that does, I don't know)

Minos are S5 basic (plus the other rules we've mentioned) and have recieved a 15 point price hike, so potential there for lots of S7 or hand weapons for extra attacks at S5. Seem decent.

Razorgor, are a unit like minos. M7 T5 4A, S5 with +1S on the charge. same cost as the new minos. Seem decent.

Harpies are special......bugger....

Bestigor are same stat line, no price change and are now special.....I honestly can't understand that move at all. Seems ridiculous that they have actually made bestigor worse than before?!?! I really hope my mate has missed something but I don't believe he has. (maybe like an awesome banner because them and the BSB are the only ones capable of taking a magic banner)

The core chariots still have a gor and a bestigor on them.

Ambush now is quite different.

To ambush a unit you must have an "equivalent" unit deployed on the board. Have no idea what that means for joined characters etc.

Can ambush from turn one.

No leadership check required, it now works as such --> Roll a dice for the unit ambushing. On a 1, your opponent gets to place it any board edge. 2-3 it doesn't turn up that turn, 4 turns up on the left flank, 5 turns up on the right flank, 6 you get to choose a table edge. Sounds pretty crap to me.

Centigor massive price hike, are now just classed as normal cav, but are still in light armour, don't seem to be any different otherwise except for the drunken changing to roll a dice at the beginning of the game.1-2, +2I, 3-4 -1M but a reroll on the leadership check to gain hatred once in combat, 5-6 stubborn.
Nothing like what I was hoping for to be honest.

5 rare choices. All seem pretty useful.

Giant and spawn stay the same it seemed.

3 more all are the same points and are a bit more expensive than an upgraded helpit abomination. None have any saving throw or regen etc.

Cyclops giant thing. Anti magic in a basket, not only does every wizard within 24"? need to pass a leadership check to cast spell that turn, any they fail to meet the casting value of, count as miscasts?!?! Seems insane to me.
Has a stonethrower that it can move (not march) and shoot with.
Has a standard attack profile (so not a table like a giant) which is 6 S6. T5 5W.

Jabberwocky thing. that 12" leadership check or suffer wounds for how much you fail by is for every unit within 12" but it does need to have los to the jabber thing (think its that way round rather than the jabber needing los to it, but could be wrong). again T5 5W.

Other big thing.
T6 6A S6 killing blow. Can instead of attacking do a single attack that killing blows on a 4+. If it makes a killing blow then it regains d3 wounds.

A few of the better gifts/items.

gift 20points, +1A
gift 15pts, 5+ scaly skin

this one seems pretty insane. 25pts. bound one use only power level 5. All enemy arcane items within 18" are destroyed. The bearer of each item that is destroyed takes d6S4 hits.......ouch to say the least.

Other items that he could remember

GW, reroll missed hits, 40 points
2 handed weapon, +1d3 attacks, if 6 has rolled ignore armour.

however there didn't seem to be ANY ward saves except a 2+ ward against flaming attacks (which also gave the unit a 4+ ward against flaming). There was a light armour which gave regen for 50 points. (obvious combo with those two assuming one's a talisman and ones an armour, you can bet your life it'll be more expensive than a simple 4+ ward which it basically is).

Ok, more stuff. (Also, maybe even pictures in a bit, depending on if I'm allowed!)

No Daemon Prince at all.

No marks what so ever, as already mentioned.

Wargors are T5, yes that's a wargor - the hero one. (his stats being 553452438)

Doombull - M6, WS6, BSwhocares?, S6, T5, W5, I5, A5, Ld8, Frenzy, Fear, Bloodgreed (+1 Frenzy if win), D3 Impact hits, and unit gets frenzy if the doombull is (starts frenzied) but doesnt use primal fury

Mutations! - +1 init (cheap), 5+ scaly skin (cheap), armour piercing (cheap), model and unit are stubborn (pricey, but oh so worth it)

4 pages of Items

Minotaurs at mid 50's points wise, same stats as before but 1 less initiative. Option for shields and they do cause 1 impact hit with no min. distance.

Harpies can scout for additional points! (woo)

Magic - Lore of the Wild (7 spells!) 0-6 like the old Tzeentch
0- Bestial Surge - 7+ movement spell, doesn't make you charge though, might be faq'd

1- Viletide - 7+ 5d6 S1 24" magic missles

2 - Devolve, 9+, enemy units within 12" take ld, amount failed = # of wounds with no AS

3 - bray-scream, 10+, one character within 12" makes a breath weapon attack at s3 with no AS (I like this one)

4 - Traitor-kin, 10+, all enemy models within 12" riding a mount of any kind suffer number of attacks = mounts attacks w/ same S. same for monsters & handlers and chariots. no AS bonus for mounted or barding, etc. (Hello Hydras! )

5 - mantle of ghorok, 13+, friendly character within 6", model gains +d6 S and +d6 S (max 10), if 1 or more 6's rolled, model suffers a wound with no saves of any kind (Interesting one, and can be potentially devastating)


6 - Savage dominion, 16+, 'summon' a giant, gorghon or jabberslythe, place at any point on table edge and move as if returning from pursuing an enemy off the table

Minotaurs are S5 (didn't notice that somehow!) and can't be core, not even the SC helps them there.

Cenitgors can be core from the Warhoof guy (mid 100pts) (who looks bloody terrible IMO), has a Unicorn Helmet, hates Welves and MR2.

Wargors are cheaper than current beastlords by 10pts. Beast lords are around 1 MoN (current book price) more expensive, Doombulls are similarly increased in price.


Gors are same price, however the sheild/AHW costs 1 point.

Unors are 1 point more and come with shield, option for spears. Option for cheap SC upgrade.

Ungor raiders are BS3 and armed with Shortbows, 50% more expensive than currently.

All 3 types can ambush, these are the only ones that can, this includes characters.

That Bestial Roll thing I mentioned before is called Primal Fury, though someone may have covered that

Doombulls aren't restricted as before with magic items.

Some magic items -

Ramhorn helm, (costs just over 2 gors worth), 6+ AS that can be combined as normal - for each successful as made, the bearer can make an attack at base strength

(so give a doombull heavy armour, ramhorn, shield and the 5+ scaly skin gift so a 0+ in combat, with 5 (6 with frenzy + bloodgreed) attacks at s6 with 1 extra attack for each save!)

Trollhide Armour makes a return, but actually does what it should do this time, costs what you'd expect for regen.

Blade-blunter armour (Heavy) - end of combat phase, d6 for each magic weapon that hit bearer, 2+ weapon now mundane


Pelt of the shadowgave, light armour, -1 to hit for shooting at him or unit (useful!) and -2 to spells cast at unit

Blackened plate, heavy armour, 2+ ward vs flaming, unit has 4+ ward vs flaming

Yeh, no acces to Fire lore, and no flaming attacks seen so far.

There's a pricey killing blow item - (most of yer points) killing blow plus when the character kills a character in a challenge, they become unbreakable and cause terror. This carries onto whatever unit the character was with.

Edit - All yer points item - Their LD is used for your S

We've got that Bonecrusher mace back, this time Stonecrusher, +3S and not a GW. S10 vs Steamtanks, Chariots, Warshrines, Corpse Cart etc.

Nangelder, cause terror and models wounded by this get -1 ld per wound suffered

Hunting spear, spear in cc, single bolt from bolt thrower, may shoot after moving (not marched) and may S&S

Axes of khorgor, two hands, +1A, re-roll missed to hit in cc (Cheaper this time)


Two handed weapon, +d3 attacks and if a 6 is rolled, they ignore armour - rolled at start of combat, until end of phase

Brass cleaver, single bonus attack against each model in btb

Everbleed, every time suffer a wound, on a 6, model suffers another wound with no saves of any kind and keep rolling as long as you keep rolling 6's

Enchanted items -

Shard of the herdstone, place a herstone marker in your deployment zone at beginning, after forces are deployed - all bray-shamans within 6" at start of magic generate 1 extra power dice

Horn of the great hunt (beastlord/wargor), bound level 3, counts a Bestial surge but with a range of 36" - Sweet!

Horn of the first beast (beastlord/wargor), all beastmen within 36" can re-roll failed primal fury

Stone of spite, bound level 5, every arcane item within 18" explodes, causing d6 s4 hits against bearer per item, items are gone. Costs the same as a dispel scroll, one per army.

Do they have access to any lores other than the new one you posted?

No more lores.

Gors are LD 7 now.

Can Ambush on turn 1 if lucky.

You need the same unit size and type for a unit to ambush. Then in the remaining moves phases each turn roll a d6

1 - Lose scent, opponent gets to choose table edge

2-3 Roll again next turn

4 - Beasts left side

5 - Beasts right side

6 - Beasts table edge of choice

Drunk is different too

1 roll at start of game

1-2 Sober! +2 Init
3-4 - hangover from hell! re-roll Primal Fury, -1 M
5-6 Drunken Bravado - Stubborn

No LOS needed for jabber- doesn't affect ITP

Giant is as WOC one, no marks

The Chaos Lores have been replaced by the Lore of the Wild, which has 7 spells, running from 0-6.
Code:

0: Bestial Surge - Cast on a 7+, Movement Spell.

1: Viletide - Cast on a 7+, 24" Range Magic Missile, 5d6 S1 Hits

2: Devolve - Cast on a 9+, Enemy units within 12" take a Leadership Test, losing wounds equal to the amount they failed by, with no Armour Save allowed.

3: Bray-Scream - Cast on a 10+, One friendly character within 12" may use a S3 Breath Weapon with no Armour Save allowed.

4: Traitor-Kin - Cast on a 10+, All enemy models within 12" riding a mount of any kind suffer a number of attacks equal to their mount's attacks, at the same Strength, with no Armour Save bonus for being mounted or barded. The same applies to the handlers of Monsters and the riders of Chariots.

5: Mantle of Ghorok - Cast on a 13+, One friendly character within 6" gains +d6S and +d6A (max 10), if one or more 6s are rolled, the character suffers a wound with no saves of any kind allowed.

6: Savage Dominion - Cast on a 16+, You may 'summon' a new Giant, Gorgon Cygor or Jabberslythe, entering play at any point on a table edge and moving as if returning from pursuing an enemy off the board.

Magic Items include:
Nangelder: The wielder causes Terror. In addition, models wounded by the wielder suffer a -1Ld penalty for every wound.
Scimitar of Skultar: +D3 Attacks. If a 6 is rolled for bonus attacks then the wielder's attacks ignore Armour Saves for this turn. Two-handed.
Hunting Spear: A Magical Spear. May also be used as a Bolt Thrower, which may shoot after moving (not marching) and may be used to Stand-and-Shoot.
Axes of Khorgor: +1A, the wielder may re-roll failed "To Hit" rolls. Two-handed, and cheaper.
Stonecrusher: +3S. The wielder has S10 against Steamtanks, Chariots, Warshrines, Corpse Carts etc. NOT a Great Weapon.
Brass Cleaver: The wielder may make a single bonus attack against each enemy model in base-to-base contact.
Everbleed: Whenever the wielder inflicts a wound on an enemy model, roll a D6. On a 6, the model suffers another wound with no saves of any kind allowed, and you must roll again until you do not roll a 6.
Unnamed Weapon: The wielder treats the opponent's Leadership as his Strength. 100pts.
Unnamed Weapon: A magical Great Weapon. The wielder may re-roll all failed "To Hit" rolls.
Unnamed Weapon: The wielder has Killing Blow. In addition, if the wielder kills an enemy character in a challenge, they (and any unit they are with) become Unbreakable and cause Terror.
Trollhide Armour: Light Armour, Confers Regeneration upon the wearer. 50pts.
Unnamed Talisman: Confers a 2+ Ward Save against Flaming Attacks upon the bearer, and a 4+ Ward Save against Flaming Attacks for the unit he is with.
Horn of the Great Hunt: Beastlord/Wargor only. Bound Spell, Level 3. Contains the spell "Bestial Surge" with a range of 36".
Horn of the First Beast: Beastlord/Wargor only. All Beastmen within 36" of the bearer may re-roll failed Primal Fury rolls.
Crown of Horns: The wearer and any unit he is with is Stubborn. 75pts.
Stone of Spite: Bound Spell, Power Level 5. One Use Only. All enemy Arcane Items within 18" of the user are destroyed. The bearer of each item that is destroyed takes D6 S4 hits. 25pts.
Herdstone Shard: Mark one spot within your deployment zone. All friendly wizards casting a spell within 6" of this spot may roll an additional "free" power dice every time they cast a spell.
Staff of Darkoth: Bray-Staff. Bound Spell, Power Level 3. Casts "Viletide".
Banner of Rust: All units (enemy or otherwise) within 6" suffer a -1 penalty to their Armour Save. Units in Base-to-Base contact with the banner suffer a -2 penalty. This does not affect Scaly Skin saves. 50pts.
Unnamed Banner: The unit carrying this banner has +1S. 75pts.

Alongside Magic Items, "Gifts" will be available in the same way as WoC Gifts, operating on the same budgetary lines. Bonuses like Scaly Skin or extra Attacks will be available, as well as more esoteric abilities like Breath Weapons.

There are to be NO Marks of Chaos in the army..

- Le 1er sort du domaine est a l’effet suivant "toutes les unités amies dans le 6ps bougent de D6 vers l'ennemi le plus proche en vue ou vers l'avant"

SPECIAL RULES:

Primal Fury: Units with primal fury must take a leadership test at the start of combat and if successful they gain Hatred (reroll even if not first round). If double 1s are rolled, they gain Hatred and Frenzy (frenzy for that turn only).

Slaughterer's Call: Any unit joined by a Doombull or Gorbull gain lose Primal Fury and gain Frenzy

Drunken: Roll for each unit with Drunken at the stat of the game. 1-2 = +2 I, 3-4 = -1M and rerolls on Primal Fury, 5-6 = stubborn

Ambush: Roll each turn for units with ambush. Must have a unit of equal or greater US on table to put a unit in ambush.
1: The unit comes onto the table, your opponent choosing which edge.
2-3: Roll again next turn.
4: The unit comes onto the table on your left hand table edge.
5: The unit comes onto the table on your rioht hand table edge.
6: The unit comes onto the table on an edge of your choice.

QUESTION: Does this include front and back table edges for 1 and 6 or just left and right?


MAGIC: (copied directly from Revlid's OP)

Lore of the Wild

0: Bestial Surge - Cast on a 7+, Units within 6" get d6(maybe+1)" move and can definitely not charge with it.


1: Viletide - Cast on a 7+, 24" Range Magic Missile, 5d6 S1 Hits (armor saves allowed?)

2: Devolve - Cast on a 9+, Enemy units within 12" take a Leadership Test, losing wounds equal to the amount they failed by, with no Armour Save allowed.

3: Bray-Scream - Cast on a 10+, One friendly character within 12" may use a S3 Breath Weapon with no Armour Save allowed.

4: Traitor-Kin - Cast on a 10+, All enemy models within 12" riding a mount of any kind suffer a number of attacks equal to their mount's attacks, at the same Strength, with no Armour Save bonus for being mounted or barded. The same applies to the handlers of Monsters and the riders of Chariots.

5: Mantle of Ghorok - Cast on a 13+, One friendly character within 6" gains +d6S and +d6A (max 10), if one or more 6s are rolled, the character suffers a wound with no saves of any kind allowed.

6: Savage Dominion - Cast on a 16+, You may 'summon' a new Giant, Gorgon or Jabberslythe (Not Cygor), entering play at any point on a table edge and moving as if returning from pursuing an enemy off the board. While the monster is on the board, the wizard that cast this spell may not cast another spell, nor may he "dismiss" the model voluntarily, and if he dies the monster immediately disappears. Every time the monster takes a wound, the wizard must pass a Toughness Test or also suffer a wound with no saves allowed.

Beastlords, Wargor, Great bray and bray shaman can all ride chariots or Razor chariots.

LORDS (I'm pretty murky on point values here)

Beastlord (23NU?): M5 WS6 BS3 S5 T5 W3 I6 A4 Ld9
primal fury, rerolls vs man on primal fury
100 points of magic items/gifts

Doombull (47NU): M6 WS6 BS3 S6 T5 W5 I5 A5 Ld8
fear, frenzy, slaughterer's call, d3 impact hits
100 points of magic items/gifts combined

Great Bray-shaman (40NU?): M5 WS5 BS3 S4 T5 W3 I5 A2 Ld7(?)
primal fury, level 3 wizard
bray staff is hand weapon, no other equipment options(?) 100 points of magic items/gifts combined


HEROES

Wargor (???): M5 WS5 BS3 S4 T5 W2 I5 A3 Ld7(?)
primal fury, rerolls vs man on primal fury, can be bsb
50 points of magic items/gifts combined

Gorbull (32NU): M6 WS5(?) S5(?) T5(?) W3(?) I4(?) Ld8(?)
fear, frenzy, slaughterer's call, d3 impact hits, can be bsb
50 points of magic items/gifts combined

Bray shaman is exactly like he was previously, cost included.
bray staff is hand weapon, 50 points of magic items/gifts combined


CORE

Gor Herds (NU+2/model): M5 WS4 BS3 S3 T4 W1 I3 A1 Ld7
10+, primal fury, ambush
extra hand weapon or shield at NU-4/model each. s/c/m at 2NU/2NU/NU(?)

Ungor Herds (NU/model): M5 WS3 BS3 S3 T3 W1 I3 A1 Ld6
10+, primal fury, ambush
shields base, spears at NU-4/model each. s/c/m at NU+3/NU+3/NU-1)(total guess ?)

Ungor Raiders (NU+1/model): M5 WS3 BS3 S3 T3 W1 I3 A1 Ld6
5-10, primal fury, ambush, skirmish
shortbows base. command options?

Chaos Warhounds (NU+1/model): M7 WS4 BS0 S3 T3 W1 I3 A1 Ld5
5+
upgrade options that don't matter.

Tuskgor Chariot (16NU): M7 S5 T4 W4 Ld7(?)
1 Bestigor with great weapon, 1 Gor with spear, 2 Tuskgors at WS3 S4 I2 A1


SPECIAL

Bestigor Herds (2NU+2/model): M5 WS4 BS3 S4 T4 W1 I3 A1 Ld7(?)
10+, primal fury, steal banners from units they wipe out a unit or break (gaining +1 combat rez but gaining no magic effects. banners DO stack). Lose all banners if they break and flee.
great weapons, heavy armor base. s/c/m at 2NU+2/2NU+2/NU+1(?)
Champ may get a gift up to 25pts. Only unit in the book allowed magic banners.

Minotaurs (11NU/model): M6 WS4 BS3 S5 T4 W3 I3 A3 Ld7
3+, fear, bloodgreed, 1 impact hit, no primal fury, come with light armour
great weapons at NU+3/model, additional hand weapons or shields at NU-1/model

Harpies - As in DE book. 2 NU.
Can scout for NU-2 per model.

Centigors (5 NU/model): M8 WS4 BS3 S4 T4 W1 I2 A2 Ld7
5+, primal fury, drunken, light armour, +1 armour for being mounted, shield, spear (aka, 4+ armour save)

Razogrgors (11NU/model): M7 WS4 S5 T5 W3(?) I4(?) A4 Ld6
1+(?), +1s on charge, fear

Razorgor Chariot (27NU): M7 S5 T5 W4(?) Ld7
1 Bestigor with great weapon, 1 Gor with spear and 1 Razorgor, cause fear?


RARE

Chaos Giant (45NU): M6 WS3 BS3 S6 T5 W6 I3 A* Ld10
same giant stuff, new chomp attacK? explain?

Cygor (55NU): M6 WS2 BS1 S6 T5 W5 I3 A5 Ld8
ItP, move and fire stone thrower (misfire = wound). Enemy wizards within 24" take a leadership test, if its failed then if they try and cast a spell and fail to meet the casting value it counts as a miscast (doesn't affect dispelling RiP). Re-roll to hit against wizards, models with magic items or attacks, undead, or creatures with a ward save.

Spawn (11NU): M2d6 WS3 BS0 S4 T5 W3 I2 Ad6+1 Ld10
same spawn stuff, no marks

Ghorgon (55NU): M7 WS4 BS0 S6 T6 W6 I3(?) A6 Ld10
ItP, Frenzy, Terror, Large target; Ld10; stubborn; bloodgreed;
-Sacrifice attacks for 1 init 1 attack. Killing blow on a 4+ after hitting.
gains d3 wounds if it kills something with it.

Jabberslythe (55NU): M8 WS4 BS4 S5 T5 W5 I3 A5 Ld9
fly, terror, shooting 1 shot range 12" S5 (move and shoot), aura of madness all enemies in 12" take ld test, failure amount=# of wounds with no armor save. Doesn't affect ItP. If it takes a wound in close combat, S5 hit on attacker. jabber has no saves



MAGIC ITEMS: (copied directly from Revlid's OP)

Mangelder: The wielder causes Terror. In addition, models wounded by the wielder suffer a -1Ld penalty for every wound.
Steel Claws: +D3 Attacks. If a 6 is rolled for bonus attacks then the wielder's attacks ignore Armour Saves for this turn. Two-handed.
Hunting spear: Counts as a spear in close combat, 24" range, move and shoot and stand and shoot. Counts a single bolt from a bolt thrower.
Axes of Khorgor: +1A, the wielder may re-roll failed "To Hit" rolls. Two-handed, and cheaper.
Stonecrusher: +3S. The wielder has S10 against Steamtanks, Chariots, Warshrines, Corpse Carts etc. NOT a Great Weapon.
Brass Cleaver: The wielder may make a single bonus attack against each enemy model in base-to-base contact. Only +1 in a challenge.
Everbleed: Whenever the wielder inflicts a wound on an enemy model, roll a D6. On a 6, the model suffers another wound with no saves of any kind allowed, and you must roll again until you do not roll a 6.
Primeval Club: The wielder treats the opponent's Unmodified Leadership as his Strength. 100pts.
Blade of Men: The wielder has Killing Blow. In addition, if the wielder kills an enemy character in a challenge, they (and any unit they are with) become Unbreakable and cause Terror. (15 NU)
Jagged Dagger: Bray-Shaman only. Put aside every model killed by this weapon - they may be used as one-use Power Dice by the wielder.

Trollhide Armour: Light Armour, Confers Regeneration upon the wearer. 50pts.

Blackened Plate: Heavy Armour. Confers a 2+ Ward Save against Flaming Attacks upon the bearer, and a 4+ Ward Save against Flaming Attacks for the unit he is with.

Horn of the Great Hunt: Beastlord/Wargor only. Bound Spell, Level 3. Contains the spell "Bestial Surge" with a range of 36".
Horn of the First Beast: Beastlord/Wargor only. All Beastmen within 36" of the bearer may re-roll failed Primal Fury rolls.
Crown of Horns: The wearer and any unit he is with is Stubborn. 75pts.
Stone of Spite: Bound Spell, Power Level 5. One Use Only. All enemy Arcane Items within 18" of the user are destroyed. The bearer of each item that is destroyed takes D6 S4 hits. 25pts.
Unnamed Enchanted Item: The bearer may force the opponent to re-roll a result on the Miscast table.
Chalice of Dark Rain: For one turn, opponents shooting is -1 to hit. Shooting that doesn't require BS only shoots on a 4+. 8 NU.

Herdstone Shard: Mark one spot within your deployment zone. All friendly wizards casting a spell within 6" of this spot may roll an additional "free" power dice every time they cast a spell.
Staff of Darkoth: Bray-Staff. Bound Spell, Power Level 3. Casts "Viletide".
Skin of man: The Shaman with this item may Scout.
Hagtree fetish: Choose an enemy unit with 24" at the start of the magic phase. Any failed to wound rolls made during the magic phase against it may be re-rolled

Skull of Rarkos: Friendly wizards within 6" including the bearer get +1 to their casting results (good synergy with the Herdstone Shard).

The Beast banner
The bearer and any unit he has joined have a +1 bonus to their Strength (and yes you can stick it on a gorebull). 75 ptd

Totem of rust
All units, friend or foe, within 6" of the Totem of Rust treat their armour save as one worse than it actually is. For instance, a model with heavy armour would only have an armour save of 6+. All units in base to base with the unit carrying the totem, including the unit itself, treat their armour saves as two worse than it actually is instead. This does not affect Scaly Skin saves! 50 pts

Manbane Standard
All enemy units within 6" of the Manbane Standard suffer -1 to their leadership characteristic.

The Banner of Outrage
The beaer's unit automatically passes primal fury tests (there is no need to roll). Enemy units Hate the bearer's unit.


GIFTS 1 per army (copied directly out of Gaargod's post)

Crown of horns: 15NU - character and unit are stubborn
5NU(ish, i think. may be more) - extra attack at base strength, with no weapon bonuses
3NU- 5+ scaly skin
2NU - +1 initiative
NU - additional -1 to hit the character if he's alone in cover

This afternoon i had the book on my hands i took a little view, now i tell u some things that, i think, were not 100% clear and a cuple new things.

1-the jabberwoky (in spain everybody calls it hypnotoad, because it´s name in spanish is EVEN worst) dont need LoS to use the aura of madnes, it´s trigered automaticly at the begining of our mague phase and units don´t need LoS either to be afected. ItP are no afected. His other shoot, tongue atack, is just S5, no more special rules.
2-the jagged dagger is a talisman and have no restrictions, so a doombull could carry it, 10pts
3-there is a gift that makes a S3 impact hit to every enemy model at beguining of combat phase, 15 pts
4-centigors have calvary rules, it´s explicit said so 4+ save, i can´t remember other equipment options or cost. table is worst in spain due to the conversion to cm, they have rounded up the inche to -3cm, so marching 6 less cm, that´s 2 inches and a half aprox
5-the BsB can use both hands as at the most recent new books, so you can have a BsB gorbull with 2 handed weapon
6- there´s a item than anulates the enemy´s music bonus, 10 pts (aprox), i thinkthey have done it thinking at the new edition, because today is not very very powerfull
7-the hunter spear is NOT a single use, some people was saying it was.

sorry for the bad english! tomorrow i will try to have another sneak peek to the book, i wish you like my first post.

minotaur champions can get 25 points of magic items and bestigors champions can get 25 points of gifts.